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[_Slacker]

Necro.

But this brings me a question: What is the default phase? And how do you change it?

[Blacktide]

1, most likely.

Going by simple math, there's nothing of the same number you can add to get 1, so I would assume that it's a stand-alone and as such is the default phase.

You don't "change" the phase itself, just set it to a different phase.  How to do so is throughout the guide.

[Halestorm]

Yes everyone and everything starts in phase 1.

[Thetruecrow]

Yes.
In some cores, when you do a phase mod to 0, or attempt to, it will do a reset to 1.

[_Slacker]

So phase changes are done in the core?

[Blacktide]

No...

:PhaseSet(#, 1) <-- the 1 is an optional argument and makes it permanent. Does not work with players. This sets the phase of the object.

Use that change phases.

[bolie2007]

Can you tell us more about how to make it permanent?  :)

[GasTrox]

You could make a little table in the DB, or add a column to some table, and write the phase the player is in, then make a script that takes that number and sets the player's phase to that number on every Log In. A bit complicated system, but once it's done, it could be easy to store each time.

[Halestorm]

[color=green]To answer previous questions I was actually testing this out and it turns out that the player phase does become permanent regardless. So if I log out and then log back in I will still be in the same phase that the script set me to. I have not yet tried if the phase remains the same after a server shutdown.

[AngelSandy]

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I have not yet tried if the phase remains the same after a server shutdown.

[color=limegreen]Well you could make a database table couldn't you?
Say 2 rows.

"Name" and "Phase"
Of course you can tell what goes in these two.
Whenever a script does something with phases it gets recorded in the Database. If the server restart another script could possibly then set the phase of each individual based on that table?

[_Slacker]

HOLD THE PHONE -
You can add a DB table for phases?
That would make my life easier?

[Halestorm]

[color=green]You can make a custom table for anything lol.

[_Slacker]

Sure you can, but I'm not like... Smarticles... And I would fuck it up. So, if I did creature/phase, it would actually be like.. Creatures and phases? .. I wouldn't have to do anything to core? Or no

[Halestorm]

[color=green]If you were to make a separate table that stores a creature's GUID number and a phase and then make an Lua script that queries the table for the creature GUID and for the Phase you can make the results of that Lua script update the database and change the creatures phase...yes

Although it would be easier to just do SetPhase on the unit you want to change phases thus not needing a whole new table and script.

[Eldrak]

Is it possible to do, for example, Player one can see player 2 and vice-versa, however only player 1 can see Gameobject 1?

[Halestorm]

[color=green]I may be overthinking it but no I don't think it is possible. Because that would require a merge of the phases which we can do by adding the values and once you merge a phase everything can be seen.

Now that sounds really confusing and it is. What I am trying to say is if we wanted to put a gameobject in phase 2 and then we have the player in phase 2 the gameobject can be seen by the player. Now we take another player and place him in phase 4, he cannot see the player or the object. Now if we want him to be able to see the player while being in a different phase we have to combine both phases so we would do 4 + 2 and we would place the player in phase 6. But now here is the problem. The object is already in phase 2 so that means it becomes visible to the guy in phase 6 because we merged 2 and 4 together.

It is early for me and I really can't think of any workarounds right now but then again there might be one because I haven't really phased gameobjects. I am more of a quest/player/item phaser. So in all honesty I never though about trying that. So if anyone else can correct me please do so because I am interested to know as well. But logic would dictate no you can't.

[Sympathy™]

Hale, I was wondering if you could help me. I'm trying to phase an NPC to phase 20 (so he can be seen in phase 4 and 16), but I'm wondering how, because I think that the same NPC would be seen in phases 1, 2, 3, 6 and 10. :|

Would this be the csae or..?

[Halestorm]

[color=green]No phase 4 is not a "merge phase" neither is 16. A "merge phase" (like that name i just made it up lol) would be a combination of two phases. So like phase 1 and phase 2 for example would be phase 3 which would be phase value 8.

Phase number 20 has a phase value of I think 524288, now if you take that and add 1 (default phase) and 4 and 8 and 64 and 1024 (phase values for phase 1, 2, 3, 6, and 10) then he will be able to be seen in all of those phases.

I think my math was right on that one.

[Sympathy™]

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[color=green]No phase 4 is not a "merge phase" neither is 16. A "merge phase" (like that name i just made it up lol) would be a combination of two phases. So like phase 1 and phase 2 for example would be phase 3 which would be phase value 8.

Phase number 20 has a phase value of I think 524288, now if you take that and add 1 (default phase) and 4 and 8 and 64 and 1024 (phase values for phase 1, 2, 3, 6, and 10) then he will be able to be seen in all of those phases.

I think my math was right on that one.

[color=limegreen]So, therefore, if I wanted a mob to be seen in phase 16 AND phase 4 I'd add the phases together? That's what I was intending on doing at least.
Phases suck and are confusing D:

2^(4-1) + 2^(16-1) = 32776

[GasTrox]

/majorfacepalm

Why am I the only one that understands this?

Phase 20: 4 + 16 = The objects and everything in phase 4 and 16 show in that phase. It's not 32776, 20 is the phase value (I see it as only phase values, not phase 3 is value 4 etc).

Now, to Eldrak, that is possible.

GO 1 is in Phase 2.
Player 1 is in Phase 3.
Player 2 is in Phase 1.

And everyone is happy =D.